If the other parent is a demon then we have a moral obligation to let our kids know the truth. Block him from texting, calling, email, FB. About 95% of the time we got along terrifically and truly enjoyed each others company. He parades her around, introduced her to his family, now contacting our old friends he ignored since divorce, but he is totally hiding her from me. It never feels over! The abuse, mind games, control stopped and my life went on. What would you do if I wasnt here to support you? After hearing statements like this all the time, you eventually start believing it, and your self-esteem suffers. He kept his ex gf pining after him and would act as if i was being insecure, when really he was instigating the attention he would receive as a means to look more desirable. So ladies, women can be just as devestaing a Narcissist as a man can! Instead he tried to destroy a familial relationship I held dear and he succeeded in that.. not that he's aware of that. I was hysterical and I called the police so they could help me get my belongings. I mean thousands of dollars. He did some terrible things to me but I have a big heart and I also realize that he is sick, so I forgave him. my relative is 11, I watched her growing, very loving family, but she was born with the disorder, no PTSD etc, their basement is an animal graveyard, stealing, verbal sadism, physical sadism towards other children, keeps distance from adults who dont take her pity me stories, manipulates fights between the parents, since at least, 8, etc. Victims often believe that when the narcissist comes back after months, it's because they . When Im in this situation due to school meetings, etc., I view my Ex as a Kindergartener who simply cannot help himself. What they wont do is tell you about it. I went from the frying pan to the fire!! I take one day at a time. I waitthen text back you can get it tomorrow at 11 am . When he was leaving me, i asked him what he wanted to do with the brand new freezer hed bought me to replace mine that quit two months prior and he told me to keep it. I dont want to have this baby alone. The cycle begins again. They Choose to act like this !!.. He knew what he was doing and he did it again. When he dated her, he attended her annual family outings. He then sulked and went silent and told me I was making a big mistake. Anybody with experience having a narc as a friend? Thank you for sharing your experience, Josi. When he came bak he hated me and punished me . All the females that I know who were involved with Cameron except Kym, have gone the no-contact with him now and we are all communicating with each other as a kind of support group to maintain this no-contact. Oh, and this girl clearly sleeps around a lot. Everytime he sent a message just to say hey he would include i miss you and it would send me back into the past, missing him and wondering why things couldnt be the way we wanted. Rod man interesting on your borderline comment. I never free up. http://www.stovolando.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Screen-Shot-2013-11-10-at-20.06.04.png. Im sorry for your pain. Im not sure he actually paid attention to what I looked like, but one thing is for sure, I didnt look like that all the time when we were together. Any advise for me? So, the satellite and internet services were in his name, when he left, I expected him to have it shut off especially since he left, he moved his new supply into a new house and the satellite tv company sent a email to our online account verifying the work order to install cable in their new house. But everywhere i go there is something thats remainds me of or laughter, our same thinking and taste of everything. . The narcissist knows that as soon as their current relationship fails, theyve got someone to run to who is willing and waiting to take them back. Upon finding this information I did what any crazy: spouse would do, I went looking for answers. We are still in silent treatment as a punishment. Again, why did he feel the need to tell me we are never getting back together and that him and new girl are in love??? Thank you for your kind comment. Any thoughts?? Thanks for sharring. I think that hit a nerve. Mine even told me he was a COWARD, said he hadnt been a very good partner to me, shouldnt have said this or done that Hi guess, I feel your pain . Of course she gets Dads estate to survive. It surprised me, thought she was married to the guy she lives with. just to see how later she would emotionally and physically abuse me and turning everything on me. 2 years into the relationship I found on facebook that he had moved in with one of the women on the telephone bill. If narcissistic partners dont care about their lovers, what makes you think theyre going to care about their exes? But in the end, I was just used as a reference so she could copy, and a mirror so she could see herself. Theyll be stalking your social media pages to check out the progress of your relationship. Till this day I do not have prove that this is his way of getting me to contact him, but I have seen a pattern. Go beyond the DSM, for ex, BPD is listed there as a separate disorder, the whole Cluster B is described as Dramatic, but o boy! They either realized they were dating a narcissist and got out of the relationship as fast as their legs could carry them and didnt look back. Hi Taniel. I feel so much more calm and serene with him out of my life. So how do you explain to the ones that you love that they the have no future because of a mental disorder starting grade one that was not recognised until a year ago? It seems they always win! However, this is where I am and I accept that I arrived here on my own two feet. you will go on for a far greater than you can ever imagine LOVE yet to be. Started punishing me . Any person who has the ability to bring you so low that you cant get out of bed to care for your children is a CANCER. I will never be the same person again. By the time my second child was born zero affection, intimacy the mask started to fall and he knew that I knew! I was, am, the scapegoat. I suppose the mindset of the Narcissist is that youll miss them so much, youll forget about what they did or said to you. This is the point I look back on and realise I was so in love with her the rational part oif my brain stopped working. Better person I dont know. He is an emotional vampire who will steal your car in the middle of the night to get himself a fix. He fell in love with her in a month or so, just like he did with the past woman and his first marriage and when it happened with me. NEXT, I am a small woman and live on my ownnobody. And thats a good thing. The last man shed ever kiss. The Narcissist will make their partner feel incredible, and have answers to seemingly everything. As you can imagine, narcissistic jealousy leans more towards the negative side of things. I learned my lessons over and over again until i was conditioned to not be my outgoing, confident self and be subservient to her will and desires. The plain people are t so perfect my heart aches for what I know and Im so grateful for my station in life and enjoy that out here in my English world, I have means to escape if I need to. He only neglected me, ignored me, lied over and over again, and all other behaviour narcissists have. That's exactly what my histrionic disordered ex said to me. Walk away. [Read:6 Things That Explain Narcissistic Abuse in Relationships]. The was hallucinating, so very confused. This is just out of pure curiosity, but lets say that I decided not to pursue the money and just let things be. There was never any financial links/obligations between us. But I need to get over this hump so I can move on completely. She also signed a deed of trust two months before we split. I also fell for his creativity and intellect. They are ALL relevant ( in my humble opinion) Shes left again and Ive not heard from her in over a week. I just wish it was easier for me to understand her intentions. I keep trying to justify his behavior. The narcissists jealousy may even lead them to try and sabotage your new relationship by spreading rumors about you or your new partner. After six moths she was pregnant. She knows about the breakup and I tell her Im avoiding him, which she understands. -Responding positively to their partners mirroring Making new friends etc. He got into a habit of calling me crazy, delusional, stupid, on drugs, bitch, nympho every time we had an argument. Then he leaves me with a weak excuse. But i swiftly reminded myself of why i went no-contact to begin with. Your first paragraph described my soon to-be-ex narc perfectly! throughout our relationship, I have caught him talking to other girls on Craigslist (several girls for about 3 months), he tried to take a picture of my friends underskirt under the table when she came to visit me and our son when he was first born. Friend tells me there was a few of ex narcs buddies that saw him with my car; in fact, friend knows some of the same people but ex didnt know this was my friend. The last contact i had was from my side. YOU OWE ME . Another part of the equation is the fact that, in my experience, every person I work with (and myself included) is or have been highly codependent. After years of abuse, they realized they were in a destructive relationship and harmed them, so they left. If you know youre not mentally strong enough to remain friends with a narcissist, dont do it. They rarely let their mask slip completely. All he wants is someone to give him supply whether good for bad. Thats why it is so easy to come back because i have no one here in my neighborhoud. Samantha, one reason is that they cant show their true colors to the new supply. Even in relationships with normal, mentally healthy individuals, that is the case. I know that many a guy has fallen for her, so i am not the only one. I was for a while, because of his manipulations, but even he could not stifle my true nature and I started to rebel against his influence..even if it was well-meaning as he always claimed. I still think of him, sometimes daily. We met a year after they split and to she was literally the best thing that had ever happened to me. I have been so confused by the 180 mine did going from you can come back any time despite being emotionally abusive every other interaction, to now acting like I have been so horrible to him he cant stand to be in a room with me even for our kids teacher conferences or IEP meetings. One of the things theyll do is use verbal trickery to convince you theyre not the same person. good bye. Leave him to his misery. I mean, why the hateraid? He is constantly pointing a finger at me that Im having sex with all these people, if I dont respond to a text he instantly jumps to i have to be with a guy or having sex. Some days i feel better and laughing again. i can laugh were it not for all the lines of heartache i carry. Also, you are likely experiencing effects of trauma bonding, which is a cognitive, bio-chemical attachment we form to our abuser. Im down to less than 100 pounds Im about to lose everything I got and he takes my fight to survive and I have to survive my kids mean more than anything and keeping their home and me being happy. She would never admit she was wrong and her mood change at the drop of a hat. If that happened , all their stories of how you were the crazy monster and them the victim would fall apart before their very eyes . But his state of mind is never stable. You just cant have a Logical Conversation with nor Reason with a toddler. Another thing to note is that while he didnt acknowledge the negative things I pointed about his character, I snooped and noticed that he has made some changes in his online life. I have the cat who is happy and thriving and settled and secure after surviving Camerons neglect. I dont even know if you desire to changebut I brought it up because often when people are in emotional turmoil, thats what drives them to try to make these kinds of major changes in their lives about how they are interacting with the world. Told him finally that I want to move on and hearing from him was preventing that and causing me pain. And that may be true but its still not good enough, obviously. I am seeing thats it really isnt me. Also, my ex rarely put me down as well, and quite often spoke highly of me both to my face and to others (from what I gather). I like feel alone at that time. But later i felt he was meaning it. I called him a lost soul. -0 to 60 when they are angered Oh and with a smirk on his face told yes him and the new girl are inlove, pffft, poor girl!!! Thanks! But we are on to him now. I know several. Everything Im reading is exactly what has been happening in my life. . This is how clever they are. If you are like me, we are natural protectors and want the very best for the woman in our lives. Sad to hear so many people get dammaged from such sick people. then i am flothing around a pink cloud. He told me he picked me on purpose to break his pattern of dating crazies. *head smack* Notice the opening paragraph where he manages to shoot down my family, my religious background, my summer job and my college friends in a few short sentences. She asked for a jury trial. He started working wit friends in a MLM type setting which would take him to shows and took him to Sturgis, I later found out the woman he complained of the whole entire trip stayed with him and 2 others in a trailer, her clothing consisted of ass-less chaps and artistic paint for her breasts. Ive been reading about this all morning. They only sometimes and realy view times they have a connection with his heart. Perhaps we had to cut off all communication without any conversation at all. It could go either wayeither he wants you as supply, or he wants revenge and is preparing for a painful and harrowing discard. We got back together and she told me it was over with the other guy because he had a temper and used drugs. Haha! When you wrote to him and rejected him, he lied and said it was a joke because he felt embarrassed. Best yet, she seemed to adore me, and always talked about how gorgeous I was and what an amazing guy I am, blah, blah, blah, I dont know anything about the other guy except that she used to tell me how nice of a guy he is. But as was the case with you, and all the partners they had before you, the new supply will eventually be devalued and discarded, too. It is possible as long as you are in a position of power and you have totally moved on. They live across each other. He is sick and will not stop I do not know how to stay away when my daughters and yes me would do anything for him to change. Wow, the reality and truism of this sucks but thats what happens when you fall for a Narc. Hello, It is good to read en find people who can relate to this issues. He started so many arguments before bed and then would just roll over and sleep while I lay there in complete anxiety. excessive use of exclamation points I told to myself by Reading all those storys here i will never let him get to me like that and now he haves his way again. You can put a stop to that by ceasing engagement. In the last year, he started being physically, emotionally, financially and even spiritually abusive. Plus, there is a disorder, that manifests as BPD psychopathy, but is not. I do have him blocked. I miss that person. Ive been there , you get stuck into what he is doing instead of focusing on your which is soooo important. Now i wrote him yesterday those angry mails. The new supply doesn't know the narcissist's agenda and will go along with whatever the narcissist asks of them. I really hope she gets hers in the end. It seems like the moment you start realizing he is not the person you thought he was, they notice and begin to pull back, resent you, and switch the blame on you. See, it was all a plan to slowly work his way back. Its true, this kind of abuse does indeed cause very real physical symptoms. In a futile attempt to get closure, I engaged with my ex-narcissist. I dont think the average person getting into a new relationship has the skills to asses whether someone was a narc or not! As I stated, there was no falling out between us. And looking at him as third party real cemented the pitiful character he is. And since we know they dont take responsibility for sh*t, dont hold your breath. Basically, she was a runner. She ran away from all her problems and responsibilities. The person who repeatedly hurts you is who he really is. So theyll get in there first. Im not going to lie, for the first time in a long time, i actually felt that love and heartbreak feeling when thinking about never seeing and talking to her again. And i really believe that he meant it at the moment he said that. Mine apologized for the first time in five years when she realized I wasnt coming back. One thing in my favor is that I dont feel in love with my narc anymore, but I do feel a lot of compassion and friendship for him. Yes, this recovery is certainly tough. I did, and that was when she came after me with reckless abandon. Reply . What she did do was lie, manipulate, triangulate relationships, curt me off a handful of times, etc. .they disappear after they have disclosed too much. You will thank yourself in the morning. One such neurotransmitter is dopamine, a chemical responsible for making us feel pleasurable sensations throughout our bodies. The peak end rule. I meet him 3 1/2 years ago, he was the most charming person Id every met my soul mate. (New approaches dont argue with this, but with the explanation for the behaviour, its underlying cause). I guess it just takes a lot of time to heal. We were long distance, and I seen her a grand total of five weekends is all. He couldnt take it if I countered his opinions or discarded his advice about MY life. Its been six months. Indifference is all I can muster now, and that beats anger, resentment and sadness any day. Declutter and clean my home The last outing he attended was 19 years ago. And most important the lies were driving me bonkers. (This is my second marriage to one and tired of their nonsense- good luck!). A trait that doesnt always serve me, I admit. Explain to your attorney yes what happened but what you will and wont allow for your childs sake tug of war with a little one will be felt by little one but informing other adults in your circle your support system what you want for your What are you doing in the self-care area? He began down grading me, being very demeaning and almost hateful. I cant sleep I cant eat. (Not to mention the danger to ur health as u do not know if he practices safe sex with his partner). Thats the best you can do? Hopefully, youve never been punched in the gut before, so you dont know how it feels. But this is one of the narcissists weapons of mass destruction. I am moving on. I broke up with him and cut off contact, but got back in touch with him I said it was to see if we could be friends but really it was because not talking to him was absolutely agonising. Eden, the nerve they have popping in and out and around our lives like nothing is soooo unsettling and weird to the norm, but he is not normal so he would probably in his mind (which we know does not function properly) feel it is ok. That is what sets us apart from them. Yet, how can you be friends with someone who is so evil? Like I said I dont have prove yet and dont want to ask him, just for my sanity I was wondering If they do stuff like this? When I broke up with him in Feb and he contacted me in May I finally told him what I thought of him. No one will really understand why I leave but it no longer matters to me what others think, they have not lived in the cloaked hell that has been a 20 year prison. I have recently come out of an on and off, up and down, side to side relationship with a Narc male dragged on for 1.5 years. The other 5% was excruciatiting to deal with though, and left me more more confused than if she had simply just been mean most of the time. She has a bad cocaine problem, and yes I suppose I did try to control that and get her into rehab. They fear strong women. Years in the making, this book creates a bridge between the first-hand knowledge of narcissistic abuse by survivors with lived experience and the social psychological research on the interpersonal and group dynamics of high-control relationships. Any advice is appreciated. I mean.. i knew he was a little bi but i know for sure he is not realy gay. I left my Narc after finding out about other women and he was stealing from people that he was supposedly doing roofs for. They may initiate contact again with that person, almost as if no time has passed. Thanks Kimberly! If they say how are you? Do not reply good nothing no contact. He would never leave if you were worthy to him. I hit the bottom a few months back and have been at the Choice Point for some time. Sever the ties! But that is better than being an emotional wreck every day like I was in the beginning. The pain is so deep. They often cannot function in even simple, daily tasks. Aside from social media stalking, many ex-couples continue to actually communicatetrying to stay friends. When I finally put my foot down and opened my own bank accounts because I was tired of him keeping us broke I was being selfish. He seems to enjoy freedom, but why hold onto me at same time? You are also one who I know has been deeply wounded by numerous men in your past. Good for you! Thank-you for your kind words. I pray you have found a Christian counselor who can help you to truly forgive all those you need to forgive and to receive the necessary healing to move forward, however God may lead you. I seen a picture of him and he was pretty average in the looks department. Respect yourself and go no contact . Try to remember that when things get rough. This was during the Christmas season, freezing outside and the following weekend he showed up at my door to collect our daughter to run errands with his new supply waiting in his truck in my driveway. 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