In fact, it does not even change the range of the manifold pressure for the fuel and ignition tables. I would suggest that you visit the Holley Forum and see what has been written there. Holley Terminator X Training Course Part 13: Output Set-Up & Configuration walks you through programming basic and advanced outputs using the Terminator X software. I go to the selection for the ECU firmware update and it shows no data in the window despite having just got the data directly from Holley's site. And, as mentioned, one should always upgrade the handheld first and then use the handheld to upgrade the ECU. Price Point: $, Advanced throttle body My issue for 2 days (and I can't even tell you how many hours multiple times I have been on hold waiting for Holley) is the crank signal LED #6 will go green to blue when turning the engine over by hand, but on cranking it goes red. Early versions of the software were more forgiving of firmware/software version mis-matches but once version 1.1 Build 3 was released it, too, required ECU firmware 1.1.6 or later. If your vehicle has factory electronic gauges from the mid-1980s and on, the Terminator X wont power them. No longer an issue--the data log is saved! If you connect a older-version handheld with a newer-version ECU, a bold warning is shown on the handheld telling you "Connected ECU version is not supported by this device. :-). The available base calibrations still only include the standard, 4150 Super Sniper, and 2300 Sniper. Thank you in advance. Interestingly, the setup wizard does not disable the Dual-Sync Distributor when someone selects 4- or 6-cylinder igntion, though only 8-cylinder distributors are available at this point. #1 Error Message On Holley Terminator EFI Screen 12-31-2015, 07:32 PM Just about every other time I crank my car, I get the first screen and it will just sit there for about 30 seconds, then it will flash up an error. Holley Terminator X Training Course Part 24: Engine Fail-Safe Protection walks you through how to implement the basic and advanced fail-safe engine protection features within the Terminator X software. So I am trying to get the tuning software to work on my laptop. In eariler versions the presence of an ignition advance was a bit misleading for those who were not configured to control ignition timing. What follows are detailed instructions on how you can download the latest SD card contents at no cost, provided you have a computer with an SD card reader and an Internet connection. \MChPJMdQZ\WK29Nm75,["1 pa @pF#>%ujy:$|mM=Fm2v&.8&`0\:YnC%rJ+U#tcuDq/Q=z3\mVfLX/\ey9r>M.tkJ]NYG*_#->A{ (}RzD3V{N9DzZ*7$i9SY4'E. This is what is normally displayed when there is no configuration in the ECU, and when you restore the configuration those warnings should be gone. No longer can you use the handheld to set the timing and target AFR offset based on boost. Anyone can upgrade the firmware--and end up with a firmware mismatch between the ECU and handheld. j+-Ud\iL[XkPJHYU')l%\endstream This page was generated at 07:50 PM. The HP and Dominator ECU's have had this forever. I've had some developments since my initial post. I updated my handheld firmware and that went smooth as always. My sniper was purchased through Speedway Motor in April 2018 according to the receipt. Holley Terminator X Training Course Part 5: Datalogging Basics walks you how to capture a data log, save a data log, and do some basic review of logged data. HP ECU's. After over 30 years in software and electrical engineering, I have learned never to upgrade any sort of software without good reason. Copyright 2017 Cyberspace Automotive Performance, Inc. All Rights Reserved. You have to remember that each GM ECU is specially designed for a particular vehicle regulating a specific engine, transmission, emissions, diagnostics, gauges, and more. Thanks! I just download techlibrary_sniper1.1.3installer.zip from https://www.holley.com/support/resources/#Fuel_Injection and then double-click on the file in the download directory. There are zero safety precautions with the factory GM unit. stream @=;^O 9{]lyl9-|#/44Yy|Se?_U}y_k}xu^~&V[!nGJ` If it's not broken, and if there isn't a specific feature that you need in the updated software or firmware, then by all means do not upgrade. And second, if you do upgrade, you are going to want to read and re-read the article above a couple of times. Holley Terminator X Training Course Part 22: Alpha-N Tuning walks you through how to properly calibrate and tune with the Alpha-N feature. Allowing you full tuning access to the Terminator X and Terminator X MAX ECU. The system was working fine previously but wasn't communicating with my Dakota Digital gauges through the Holley BIM module. Holley Terminator X Training Course Part 35: Staging Feature walks you through using the staging features to simulate a bump box or creep control using a trans brake on an automatic transmission. . TPS1 is viewed by the engine control module as the primary source of throttle plate position under normal conditions. All of the connectors are labeled, making the installation simple. This problem only compounds with a larger hit of nitrous. Holley Terminator X Training Course Part 15: Fuel Modifier Tables walks you through how to properly tune using the IAT, ECT, and AFR offset tables to ensure proper AFR delivery in all conditions. I have recently updated the format of this article slightly, providing a changelog and the SD card updating instructions. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. All times are GMT-6. ", above. xTMo0W(Hv(vbHRdAH(NL#O&x&0SW>_QC&{,x4'Mx0l_rFI!zFchChSZmgr&/)Of{?tw!=0C5"Yd:j{LJb#x7`Yf}^x+c@/R? Maybe a "Coming Soon"? Its simplicity is deceiving. Like many others, EFI System Pro allowed me to dial a new Holley Sniper. I have also tried two different versions of the installer 1.1.3 and 1.0.4. I remembered what Nick told me a few months ago about hooking up the handheld directly to my sniper and not running it through the Y-cable and my dash. Capability Range: Advanced Though it was built to implement the Sniper EFI System it does not allow the handheld to monitor CAN bus channels 29, 30, and 31, which are the three channels across which Custom1, Custom2, and Custom3 (the additional sensor inputs) are sent. Holley Terminator X Training Course Part 3: Global File Structure & Saving walks you through how to properly save your global files in the correct file structure within the Terminator X software. Hello. Use the handheld device to navigate to Files > Global Configs, find the configuration file that you just saved, and upload it to your ECU. % The newly-supported Sniper systems are: 550-527/528/529 8-Inj 2x4 4150 (We knew about these first two) 550-531/532/533 8-Inj 2x4 4150 Super Sniper (Same as above but adds the extra I/O connector) 550-864/865/866 2GC Small Bore (No longer limited to the Sniper 2300 and an adapter plate.) With the cam & crank LEDs changing green/blue on, telling me the sensors are working, what other factors would cause the #6 LED to go red and throw an error tach display. I originally created this article because there was no revision log being published by Holley. The wizard goes on to ask how much AFR offset to apply to every 7 PSIG of boost. G (1) S (1) Get Results; Price Range . Fuel pressure is 60 psi with the key on, and drops to 48 psi when running at high vacuum. For one, it runs inside the Sniper software. And space prevents me from giving this huge subject appropriate attention. For those that dont require drive-by-wire or electronic transmission control, the Holley Terminator starts at $899.95. However, on the one copy of the 1.1.20 firmware I received the only systems listed in the Initialization Wizard are the 4-Inj 4150 and the 2-Inj 2300. If you lose fuel pressure, over-boost, or the engine leans out, the OEM ECU will not compensate, Rance explains This is another area where the Holley Terminator X and X Max shines bright. Crank Signal - Green = Tooth Detected, below crank to run RPM (400RPM), Blue = Gap Detected, below crank to run RPM (400RPM), Red = Crank Error Detected, Off - Synced Properly. Terminator X SD Card Updater Used for updated SD Card Contents on any 3.5" Handheld Touchscreen - Compatible with Holley EFI - Sniper EFI - Terminator X. Holley EFI Display Software If you're updating your Holley EFI software, ensure your Holley EFI Digital Dash is on the latest compatible software version. See paragraph #1 above entitled "Important". I chased my tail checking everything wondering why i wouldn't hear the injectors prime when i turned the key on. The scan tool will display a low voltage when the throttle plate is at rest. If you have a boosted application, you are looking at $500 for a standard tune, explained Rance. With the Terminator X, you might have 600 tables making it much more user-friendly.. If not, get a tps from the wreckers. Everything seems to be straightforward. You are using an out of date browser. Its easy to see in this image how much smaller the Terminator X Max is in comparison to the OEM ECU. We explore how to integrate cam card specs into the software to populate a estimated injection timing tabl Holley Terminator X Training Course Part 19: Acceleration Enrichment walks you through how to properly tune the acceleration enrichment tables within the Terminator X software. The default is just a few seconds to prime. Holley's website page on the 550-842 is one example of "Gasoline Only". Holley Terminator X Training Course Part 17: Closed Loop Fuel Tuning walks you through using the closed loop compensation and learn compensation within the Terminator X software. FREE delivery Feb 15 - 16 . Narrowband O2s are also good. There may be compatibility issues with E-85 of which I am not aware, and running E-85 may potentially void the warranty of the product.Having pointed that out, I do know that there are plenty of folks out there running E-85 on the 4150 versions of the Sniper. Find that at the bottom of this article. Gml`Y(pp]V1mrhW K.,#]%He #7 LED light stays green. I just keep clicking "Ok" and when it's done it always works.Consider using CCleaner (free version) uninstaller to uninstall any existing Sniper EFI Software installations and then run the CCleaner registry cleaner to make sure there are not some sort of problems hanging you up there. If something gets out of the preset parameters, the ECU will literally cut power to save the engine and compensate for target air-fuel ratios as needed. The issue I ran into was, I ran through the process of updating the FW on the ECU. Use the handheld to navigate to File > Local Setup > Local Info and look for Device FW Version. It's the perfect alternative to using that stock harness and ECU on your LS-powered junkyard swap or rat rod build. 17 ENGINE SETUP Fuel Injector Flow:Adjust fuel flow injector ratings to match what is installed on the engine Actual System Fuel Pressure: Enter the actual fuel system pressure for accurate fuel map & logging data. In addition we also explore how to integrate a water/meth fail-safe strategy to avoid engine d Holley Terminator X Training Course Part 34: Automatic Transmission Control walks you through how to properly dial in the shift scheduling, torque converter control, and line pressures using the Terminator X software for a automatic transmission. check out the. $YZ qmc8 \\6e .bpfOHex)o17'$OM?h xzL9 6q`oIf,n"-k5@$pz+o 6unbsA,}W1?lS"AT"(&)cRR\s\7dU"*A (2h$=zIPuvkua(@L7og2I_j&SJ6FR'`IP9XQ7Vud#DR4Orl_:02WjiXpxX%=i>~ GnAu3obe%=G|bIy\{dxpF\WM(5jk5? ), 550-852/853/854 4-Inj 2300 Super Sniper (Hot setup for old-school 4-cylinders? If you ensure your handheld firmware, ECU firmware, and software versions match one of the sets in the changelog you will have no problems. Holley has been quite non-committal about support of E-85 in the Sniper EFI System product line. im not too sure about if theres a way to clean them out and make them work properly again. % Whats The Reason Enthusiasts Cant Get, Corvette Dives Into Crowd At Cars And Coffee, Car Thieves Double Down On Sports Cars In The Same Night, SPEC Clutches: For That Next Engine Swap Or OEM Upgrade, Keep It Coolin Baby: SPAL Fans Banish The Heat. For that reason, the key to updating the Sniper EFI Handheld and ECU Firmware is to have the correct files in the correct directories on the SD card. Alternatively, I have saved this copy of the last v1.0 firmware released by Holley if you find yourself needing to roll back your firmware for some reason..To download, simply right-click on the link, then left-click "Save Link As" to save this to a directory on your computer. Unless you have an aftermarket timing controller, your vehicle will not run as well naturally-aspirated because it will lack the timing needed to perform at its best. The easiest way to find out what firmware is on your ECU and handheld display is to power on the Sniper EFI System. AFR says Init Tach says error and she stays in Open Loop. endobj This is the version of the firmware that is loaded into the handheld. endobj The Terminator X Max includes the ECU, which will control the engine and electronic transmission, a standalone wiring harness, transmission harness, injector harness, and a wideband sensor. The difference in the manual update process is that no .fwu file needs to be loaded on the root of the SD card directory. couldn't be that much. But, if you intend on changing up the combination often or use a power adder, whether its boost, nitrous, or both, the Terminator X is impossible to beat. x][~m&l 0VV NXApv,-fmVkK9/vgUcW_Mw}z}z7ayg?p526ozk>=+;h^p:9t`I4oR>]6_w4NEW,XJ?6S+qV GY;~_WH$u;O, |i%O$s&q>yf?;#vNFed1O? But then it asks an unexpected question: "Target AFR at 0 PSI Boost?" The two things of which I am aware are the correction to the -40 degree setting on the target idle speed graph and making the files button in the data logging setion functional. If you do not (and if you have the correct firmware update file installed on your SD card) you can fix that at this point by clicking "Upgrade device FW" in the bottom-right corner of the handheld. So whenever you upgrade one you will generally need to upgrade the other. stream However, this is an easy dilemma to fix. 4 0 obj So if the engine is running rough, it will be up to you or your tuner to figure out the problem. Capability Range: Advanced Excellent write up, extremely helpful. Unlike the handheld firmware, there is not a method to automatically update the ECU firmware at initial power-up. All times are GMT-6. Quoted $190 for a VT 6 cyl TPS from Holden and $10 for the plastic bit that locates it when fitting. Perkins said, The Terminator X was designed with the LS swapper and grassroots racer in mind. (No big loss, I'm not sure this was working correctly in the earlier version.). Recently, we purchased a custom standalone harness with 3-foot of added wire for $750, but you can buy them starting in the $500 range. Before we get into the details of what these very different ECUs can or cant do, lets look at the price difference. The "PC Text" indicates what will be shown on the PC/Laptop data monitor or data logger. Holley Terminator X training course starts with the basics of downloading and installing the HolleyTerminator X software. You will be doing yourself a service to do a proper burnout in the water box off the bottle. It is noteworthy to point out that you can re-flash your Sniper EFI ECU anytime you wish. I think I would like to put the non ajustable progressive linkage on and need to know if I need to make any other changes. How can I find out? Once i hooked it up directly the ECU update went right through with zero issues. <>/ProcSet[/PDF/Text/ImageB/ImageC/ImageI] >>/MediaBox[ 0 0 612 792] /Contents 4 0 R/Group<>/Tabs/S/StructParents 0>> If you happen to be online, that means it pushes those into the running ECU. Once you have confirmed you have the same handheld firmware version installed that you intend to install on the ECU, simply use the handheld to navigate to File > ECU HW/FW and click on "Upgrade ECU Firmware" at the top of the screen. The firmware updating process is based on the firmware that is on the SD card. Every MPFI . check out the. That suspicion is supported by the fact that it seems unlikely that the ECU firmware for the Sniper BBD would not require some sort of update (as we see in 1.1.25.). Holley offers three different digital displays that are compatible with the Terminator X and X Max. I get a "Searching for ECU" message in red at the bottom of the screen. <> Free ground shipping regardless of order size! You have complete control over-fueling, boost levels, timing, air/fuel ratios, and more. In today's video, Ray from Holley Performance is going to take you through the steps of setting up your inputs and outputs to auxiliary components such as power fans, fuel pumps, and trans brakes, on Holley's Terminator X EFI system. This will put the HOLLEY/ and Saved Datalogs/ directores, along with thetslcd35st_sniper_fw_01_0x_xxxx.fwu firmware update file right at the root directory of the SD card. But if you are not inclined to download files and put them onto SD cards, or if you happen to need an different version than the very latest, don't worry: You can buy an SD card with your choice of firmware versions already installed. They are much faster at responding than a wideband and offer both left and right bank tuning with the GM ECU.. And unlike the GM ECU, these units offer a ton of them. Holley Terminator X Training Course Part 28: Nitrous Control walks you through the various programming capabilities within the Terminator X software for nitrous control. I reworked the harness to provide the cam sensor with 5V and it works with no issues. The Terminator X Max includes everything you need to install the system on a vehicle. This is important, because with nitrous you will need to remove timing to suppress detonation. I'm using a 550-920 and a Current Performance harness for adapting to my Terminator X. 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