Smallville Wiki is a FANDOM TV Community. Goku actually teaches them how to fight properly. Assume in some multiverse Dragon Ball world, Naruto verse, One Piece world, Krypton and DC earth exists. (Not sure if Superman has an explanation as to what makes him fly other than "he can") Also, how would the hybrid even exist? @zetsumoto: if saiyans and humans hybrids have so much potential imagine a kryptonian and saiyan. But then this begs the question, does that cancel out the saiyans ability to adsorb blunts waves from a planets natural satellite(moon) or is it the reverse. Still, they can't breathe. In conclusion; a few common traits that a Saiyan/Kryptonian hybrid would have may include: -Planning, information gathering, tactical skills and mental processes. A hybrid Saiyan's potential may be held in check by the fact they lack the same desire for combat as pure Saiyans, and thus tend not to train as much, in times of peace, as a pure Saiyan would. I would love to see this Saiyan-Viltrumite Hybrid meets a Female Kryptonian (like Supergirl or Powergirl) and the Child would be the first Saiyan-Kryptonian-Viltrumite Tribrid (Saiyantonianmite) just imagine how powerful their child would be? Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. The entire DC Universe is in the middle of a very traumatic Dark Crisis. Even though she hadn't yet, he still felt an immense amount of pride in her. By the time of the events of Dragon Ball Online, pure blooded Saiyans had become extinct in Universe 7, as the only survivors of the planet Vegeta's destruction were male. And remember what is the source of the hybrids power? So here it goes; I'll be adressing the hypothetical case of a hybridization between both alien races - few things you should know: I will take into account any DATA, but obviously I'll pay more attention to canon for a reason; I will also accept and adress this case as if both races coexisted in the same universe, therefore, elements of both are possible (in this case, KI in the DC universe, or solar absorption in the DB universe). The Man of Steel will have a tough fight against The Legendary Super Saiyan, Broly, but in the end, his strength and superpowers will come through. As we know, it's not the least complex part, but because of that, we have no idea how an actual hybrid would behave and education comes into play too. In the anime there was the added distinction of Frost starting the wars himself for a profit duping his employees in the process until his exposure as a space pirate. Additionally, Shallot was able to learn Ki Sense on his first try after just a little instruction from Gohan (Kid). The previous Super Saiyan appeared approximately 1,000 years (3,000 in the Ocean Group dubs) prior to the Frieza Saga, approximately 238 Before Age, and is described by Vegeta as a Super Saiyan who could only retain his status in the transformed state. [28] Their monkey-like tails, alongside their turning into Great Apes, is the main reason why those of Saiyan descent are sometimes referred to as "monkeys" or "apes" as a racial slur (especially notable by the Frieza Force's reference to them as such). Skinwalker names - Pathfinder. Training to increase power level is also uncommon, with only a few Saiyan children receiving a short period of special training to acquire a greater power level. Tuffle-Saiyans only existed in Age 780 as a result of Oren and Kamin invading Sadala. The Saiyan Army tried many times to overthrow the Tuffles but were unsuccessful, sparking a ten-year conflict on the planet. If the Saiyan parent was capable of Super Sayian 1 levels, the kid will quickly reach those levels. Despite his amnesia, Shallot apparently remembers how hunt as he talks about hunting when the meal Bulma supplies him with isn't enough to curb his appetite. some still stayed and fight, the savage and brutal saiyans were sentence to the phantom zone, while there they've met with kryptonian convicts that have also been exiled here too. He had to grow up in a new realm and now he goes by the name Y/N, where he now is tasked with saving the multiverse as the darkness now seeks to corrupt the entire multiverse. Naturally growing stronger as they mature, they gain a very muscular and well-defined build. Dirty, Little, Traitor [Scaramouche x Reader As a member of the Fatui military, it is extremely important to follow the rules of your superiors , DC universe: The new Savior ( Mal hybrid re Y/n a teen boy who was just normal human being with future until Superman being a regime ruin your F! .But with that said if they were somehow able to fuse somehow,They would probably be just super strong, super fast and super durable and capable of flight and minor energy projections. It is also implied that this sense of smell, combined with his shattered sanity, was also part of the reason why he mistook Goten and Gohan for Goku in Dragon Ball Z: Broly - Second Coming. The Saiyan Kryptonian Hybrid Race. The Saiyans lived in the arid wastelands, while the Tuffles lived in great cities, employing advanced technology. The only exception is Cumber, who attacks are in French. However, the computers operating the pods seem to be very sophisticated, and can even change course in space, despite there being no visible means of doing so (in the real world, spaceships must either slingshot around a large gravity source, such as the Moon, or must have some object to push themselves away from, per the Third Law of Motion, "For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction"). Saiyan-Kryptonian Potara fusion. In the Japanese version of the Saiyan saga, Nappa suggested to Vegeta that they mate with the female Earthlings to produce a new powerful Saiyan race, but Vegeta refused because he feared a half-breed's power would become too dangerous. . Saiyans appear inclined to be arrogant at times, leading them to allow enemies to gain advantages in battle just for fun. (Also, this guy is pratically a god, he can just blow up the moon for shizzles). It is unknown if this permanently voids Universe 6 Saiyans of the Great Ape form or can access it without the need of a tail. After the defeat of Kid Buu, Vegeta tries to spend quality time with his family and stays with Bulma during her pregnancy with their second child. The trait that sets almost all pure-blooded Saiyans apart is their innate lust for battle. This may explain how he was still able to achieve Super Saiyan God, as deep down he was truly a righteous Saiyan with his evil actions being the result of brainwashing and the Mastermind's influence. Hero Of Reality (Kryptonian/Saiyan Hybrid Reader x Multiverse) (DISCONTINUED). Share your thoughts, experiences, and stories behind the art. But most of these characteristics DO NOT seem to be passed onto hybrids, for instance; Gohan, a half Saiyan, half human, is not as eagered to train, fight or violence as a full blooded saiyan with a similar moral code (Goku). In contrast to the Saiyans of the Universe 7, the Saiyans of the Universe 6 seem to care for their families more, as shown by Cabba, wanting to protect his planet when Vegeta falsely threatened to destroy their planet. By managing to access the power of the Great Ape without taking on the form, a Saiyan takes on the Wrathful state. During his subsequent battle with Giblet, Shallot demonstrates his resolve by opposing his brother's genocidal plan, determined to protect his fellow Saiyans regardless of their heritage. Well, I imagine that the Kryptonian power would serve as the base form while the the Super Saiyan power ups would multiply that. some still stayed and fight, the savage and brutal saiyans were sentence to the phantom zone, while there they've met with kryptonian convicts that have also been exiled . However, after learning of Giblet's identity and his usage of the Dark Ki, Shallot suspects that Giblet is being manipulated. Also, any energy lost during a battle, will be completely restored, and, in some cases, multiplied, after a short time of resting. How powerful is this hybrid and how powerful could it become with training? Due to their insane levels of physical power, they are easily able to destroy mountains, islands, and potentially entire planets just with pure physical strength, especially in the Super Saiyan states. Once a Saiyan masters the divine power of Super Saiyan God, by transforming from a Saiyan with the power of Super Saiyan God into the Super Saiyan form, they can access a new more powerful transformation called Super Saiyan Blue, more descriptively known as "Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan". If anything, a kryptonian would drag a saiyan down and add another weakness to them. We can't be sure if under this the hybrid would have the kryptonian abilites, but if it did, it would be basically, Hulk up to a gazillion. 2023 GAMESPOT, A FANDOM COMPANY. When a Saiyan is taken by the Evil Aura from an Evil Saiyan they'll take berserk transformations that depend on what form they are when corrupted. Goku also uses this ability to track down the thief that steals his belongings in the episode Pilaf and the Mystery Force. In Xenoverse, Great Ape Bardock destroys the Power Ball created by Vegeta that allows Bardock to transform, inorder to prevent the time displaced Villainous Mode Broly from transforming into Great Ape Broly. Could it match Clark Kent in power? Instead of playing like Earthling children, Saiyan children fight amongst themselves. However, it should be noted that Nappa suggested the idea they could repopulate the Saiyan race through reproducing with Earthlings to create hybrids, even suggesting that hybrid offspring had potential to become Super Saiyans, which was later proven correct by Gohan and his counterpart Future Gohan (as both Trunks & Future Trunks achieved it after their respective timelines' incarnation of Gohan). 2023 GAMESPOT, A FANDOM COMPANY. Most Saiyans will spend their lives training to become stronger so that they can prove themselves in battle. Follow/Fav The Kryptonian Saiyan Hybrid. [12] Dragon Ball GT: Perfect File speculates that Saiyans were originally Great Apes who gained intelligence and took on a humanoid form. However, Goku and Vegeta's families had spread and so many Earthlings possessed hidden Saiyan genes, and thus the traits of the Saiyans, such as the potential to become Super Saiyan, and also to receive Saiyan Power. As they continue battling, their minds and bodies continue to adapt and improve from the experience. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. However, on Earth, which has both lesser gravity and a yellow star, Kryptonians gain superpowers". OC is only Saiyan/Kryptonian hybrid sent to NV who is same age as Naruto and Co. OCs story starts at Naruto verse but ends at him defeating Frieza & Cooler to Save the . In Dragon Ball Minus, it shows Bardock and a comrade flying in an unusually large Space Pod, enough for both to be inside of it. Potentially making him more powerful than Superman if they have a decent solar charge. Even more, Saiyans are shown able to recover from injuries much faster than humans. In the Namek Saga, Dr. Brief was able to obtain the space pod that Goku arrived at the planet in as a baby and was able to use reverse-engineering to build a bigger spaceship, so that Goku would have room to train in on his way to Namek. xcept Zenkai and energy manipulation. The Saiyans from the Universe 6 have changed somewhat morphologically, having long since evolved beyond naturally having tails as a physical trait. The fact that the tail would be hard to be cut and even after being cut could and most likely would heal back makes us think this might be extremely dangerous. In Dragon Ball Legends, Ancient Saiyans like Shallot are shown to be somewhat more primitive than their modern counterparts, as demonstrated by the game's original protagonist Shallot, who is shown to be ignorant of technology, large cities, and concepts such Sensing Ki, and genetics. Gine informed Raditz of his brother's whereabouts though he, Nappa, Vegeta, and Frieza Force assumed Goku had been sent to invade Earth by the Saiyan Army, unaware his departure to Earth was unauthorized as Bardock and Gine had stolen a Attack Ball to send Goku off-world. One could say it is the Kryptonian DNA pulling up something on the human DNA. Additionally, when utilized by Cumber, the Super Saiyan 3 form did not appear to greatly increase the length of his hair. They have displayed the ability to achieve the Super Saiyan form, as well as Super Saiyan 2. Saiyans, at least as adults, are resistant to extreme temperatures, far more so than humans, as evidenced by Bardock going into outer space to face Frieza for the last time, Broly surviving being frozen in a glacier, and Goku training in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber and facing Lord Slug and his minions when they used a machine to cause the Earth's climate to get extremely cold. After he threw away his beliefs and became a fucking Hakaishin. However, Shallot isn't above calling out his fellow Saiyans, such as when he admonishes Caulifla for eating the Earth Resistance's food supplies due to it causing trouble for Future Mai, though it is implied that he fails to see the hypocrisy in his statements. Among other influences, the concept of the Saiyans were inspired by the Kryptonians, the humanoid extraterrestrial species in the American DC Comics Universe to which Superman/Kal-El belongs to. However, as he grew older, Vegeta acted as though he didn't care about his father likely due to him becoming more cold-hearted due to the influence of Frieza and as a way to cope with the loss of his race due to the Genocide of the Saiyans. If their power level remains low even after a certain amount of time has passed, they are classed as low-level warriors and become either engineers, scientists, or infiltration babies. There's that debate going on, but what Vegeta said is probably more on the ultimate potential of the hybrid than on his inherent power. [10] The Saiyans who eventually joined the Frieza Force were the Saiyans who moved from Planet Sadala to Planet Vegeta, nearly all of them were wiped out by Frieza - leaving only a handful remaining. The existence of the original Super Saiyan God who got his power from five other pure hearted Saiyans in the past also implies that the barbaric and uncaring attitude had been a choice at some point in their history, rather than being an inborn character to all Saiyans. Manage all your favorite fandoms in one place! [35] They are often shown eating plate after plate of food, resulting in many dishes piling up. Under the yellow sun, the power source of Kryptonians, that energy could be used to power up the natural KI of the hybrid, making him able to accumulate the increasing KI without damaging himself and without limits, since Kryptonians are self sustained under the sun. Bulma herself believed Goku to be that young when they first met, but was shocked to find out he was actually 12. [33], I'm so tired of these Saiyans making every battle they're in harder than it needs to beGod of Destruction Beerus, Saiyans tend to share common personality traits, even at young ages. Due to their enormous strength and intense aura, the Saiyans' energy and nutritional intake requirements are a great deal higher than normal Earthlings. Jon Kent) with Hybrid Saiyan growth potential + multipliers in the sun and zenkai,ssj,divine ki and ui on top of that, Ki in general doesnt just overcome hax but also allows one access to hax techniques if they so trained for it, outside of Goku using hakai in the manga (which is dumb and non canon) theres nothing that suggests just training would give you those abilities, Toppo blatantly spams Hakai in the anime bud. after each near death experience would be something to behold. Basically. If he could have used it without throwing away his fucking principles he would have done so. All full-blooded Saiyans (such as Raditz, Kakarot, Vegeta, Nappa, Paragus, Broly, or Bardock) have names that are a pun on various vegetables. Their agility is also substantial in their battles and training, they can easily perform immensely high jumps or acrobatics far more advanced than those of normal human beings, with no drawback or strain on their bodies. He also says hes known of multiple people with the ability to skip time, 2020 and we still have convos about the bog saga, Vegeta mentioned the more powerful a Saiyan gets the weaker their Zenkai becomes in the manga version of the Black saga. [14] The good Saiyans and evil Saiyans were in conflict for a long time, with the good Saiyans only ever managing to get one victory to their name, eventually the evil Saiyans wiped out the good Saiyans, and thus all modern day Saiyans are descended from them. BUT WAIT, we know the Saiyan homeworld was 10x stronger in terms of gravitational pull, so Saiyans are atleast 10 time stronger than the average human, but let's do some math. Hey guys! Saiyans also have very good memories, even from the time they were babies. Based on Vegeta's initial disgust and animosity towards Gohan when he first learns about the half-breed's unusually high-power level, it is strongly hinted that Saiyans were adamantly against reproducing with creatures of another race and bearing hybrids. As for how powerful. pre-crisis krypto saiyan lad vs obd's universal yeehaw - ghost artorias sprites fight style, This hybrid gets power from both the sun and the moon, Ki in general (Ki Shields, Strong enough Ki can overcome hax, etc), >warrior race is cutthroat; essentially live in a caste system. It must be what King Vegeta felt for the Prince. In terms of physical development, this differs by Saiyan as it does with Earthlings. Saiyans possess several Super Saiyan transformations, each different in appearance and the power they provide. Assuming both his Saiyan and Kryptonian lineage are preserved, the hybrid may have at his will a number of tools for crime-fighting, world conquered or ass kicking. 2. - Both are humanoid races that beyond that, are extremely close to Humans in the outside, leading one to presume that even with their great abilities they aren't that different inside. An individual Legendary Saiyan is born once every 1,000 years in both universes. In fact, they will excommunicate Saiyans who do not show potential to assist in their violent ways, even alleged "royalty," such as Tarble.[34]. However, they are still a warrior race regardless. He wasn't sure how, but he had a feeling she would one day far surpass him. Originally Posted by qwertyuiop1998. Answer (1 of 4): Holy Shit Well we've seen Goku's already INSANE potential with fighting, and he's a natural at it. Though King Vegeta saw Tarble as a disgrace due to him being determined a low-class fighter due to his lack of aggression and ruthlessness, he chose to exile him and Vegeta is shown to get along with Tarble when they reunite as adults, though this is likely due to Vegeta's being more of a family man by this point. Similarly, it was implied that his exiling Broly in Dragon Ball Super was similarly rooted in his parental instincts towards Vegeta. Any Saiyan can become a Super Saiyan, however they require a large amount of S-Cells in order to take on the form, Saiyans who have a gentle spirit gain more S-Cells (though they cannot gain enough to go Super Saiyan through a gentle nature alone) and when a Saiyan increases their battle power they steadily gain more S-Cells. Additionally, he is able to determine that Turles isn't Goku via his scent. part saiyan, part kryptonian hybrids, most of the saiyans had tried to take over krypton but while most fled from the kryptonian technology. Universe 6 Saiyans lack tails, having evolved to not require them for full efficiency in battle, and can transform into a Super Saiyan with more ease once they obtain the knowledge of the transformation. In Universe 7, according to Akira Toriyama, the Saiyans joined the Frieza Force when it was still under the command of King Cold,[18] while according to Daizenshuu 7 around Age 731, about a year following the Saiyan victory over the Tuffles, the planet was conquered or annexed by Frieza's empire and the Saiyans (like many other races) were drafted to serve as soldiers in Frieza's military. The OP asks for how powerful the hybrid could be. To which, the tyrant went to the planet and completely obliterated them from space, wiping out all but a small group of Saiyans. Cookie Notice I'll present my ideas. "The Saiyans are a naturally aggressive, warrior, fighting race who, since ancient times, have lived a violent and inhumane lifestyle, where they attack numerous planets to build up wealth and goods". While Saiyans can grow beards it apparently takes them a long time, as seen when Goku and Vegeta spent three years in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber, yet only grew enough facial hair to cover their faces. Newer models would have large pads on the shoulders, on the hips, and/or above the pelvic. Also, as their bodies recover and adapt from the injuries, their bodies will grow considerably stronger than before, a literal example of the saying "That which does not kill me only makes me stronger". Kaioken : x?? Not to mention the whole armor thing. Tarble looks up to his older brother due to his mistaken belief that Vegeta was the one who defeated Frieza and gets along with his sister-in-law and nephew. KI is a powerful latent energy, consisting of life force, which drawns upon the courage/will and mind of the user, being either positive or negative and able to be controlled and turned into various capabilities (we will see which soon), Superhuman Strenght; mainly through the gravitational difference between Earth and Vegeta/Saiyan HomeWorld and the higher density and strenght of saiyan musculatory system, but also through the use of KI to power it up, Superhuman speed, reflexes and perception, same reason as above, flight, the ability to control KI comes in use, enabling users to use it as propulsion to fly at incredible speeds, Zenkai - the ability to grow stronger if the user survives a near fatal injury (the closer to death the Saiyan gets and is able to survive, the stronger he gets), this one is a evolutionary characteristic of Saiyans, Energy (life force/KI) absorbtion and lending, see above, Healing ability (only others, not themselves), see above, Kinectic outburst through the use of KI Auras, see above, Psychokinesis (slightly different form of telekinesis, but mostly the same), see above, Natural increase of KI over time, possibly through evolution, Super sense of smell, possibly through evolution, Healing factor and higher immulogic system, through evolution (necessary for a warrior race), Some resistance to magic; probably inherent to saiyans but for no known reason, low level mind reading and tolerance, unknown causes (most of the times it's done, the user needs to concentrate a lot and the "victim" must be unconscious or near unconscious or very relaxed as well - this can be bypassed through the use of a link), prehensile tail, through evolution (more on the tail in the weaknesses department). 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